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What’s the point of Q&A sites anymore?

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Lately, whenever I consider asking a question on a site like Software Codidact, I end up just asking an LLM chatbot instead. Just thinking of the effort of distilling a minimal working example, formatting the post correctly, and anticipating the downvotes, is enough to have an aversion to the site. So what’s the point of these Q&A communities if the friction to participate often outweighs the benefit, especially when a language model can give you an answer instantly?

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Going through "the effort of distilling a minimal working example" will help you understand the probl... (1 comment)
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In short: LLMs are trained based on what we already know. I'm oversimplifying massively, but essentially they produce a string of words which is likely to follow the prompt you provide based on extensive training on samples of language, code, etc. At their core, they are statistical models, and as the saying goes— lies, damned lies, and statistics. They are not general artificial intelligence; they carry no intrinsic understanding of their input or output, and are therefore not capable of knowing that their output is correct in the same way a human is.

They're useful for some things, in the same way data and statistics are. Here is an example of a model:

Simple graph of x=y from 1 to 10, with a trendline continuing to x=12

The points are my training data; the dotted line is my model. My model predicts that given an input of 11, the output will also be 11. In this way, a good model can make good predictions for what comes next; LLMs work essentially the same way, but on billions of input parameters and training data points. That said, what's to say that my graph doesn't show a sequence which maintains $x=y$ from 1 to 11, but then jumps to 13, then 24, then 35, etc? It's not possible for my model to know or predict this, in the same way that it's not possible for an LLM to predict with 100% accuracy the correct answer.

Sorry, slight tangent.


What does that mean for Q&A sites? An LLM may be able to give you a correct answer a lot of the time, particularly for predictable or repetitive tasks; computer code often follows a very well-defined syntax and API so is often predictable enough for an LLM to get it right.

What the LLM doesn't know is anything that it hasn't been trained on. Anything new. If I were to create a new programming language and not share a formal syntax or API with anyone, then—quite apart from the fact that it would be useless—LLMs would be unable to accurately predict what comes next.

That goes for anything that's new. For Q&A communities like this, perhaps that means a pivot away from asking simple questions looking for help debugging code, and towards asking complex questions looking for ideas that only humans can generate. What should I consider when structuring this large and complicated project? What are the trade-offs of this niche technical decision?

Just what is a foo, anyway?

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ggorlen‭ wrote 3 months ago · edited 3 months ago

Most LLM agents (Claude Code, Cursor) have internet skills and can query the latest open source docs or codebases, allowing them to answer frontier questions and resolve, for example, day-old regressions in third party libraries. It may take some prompting to get them to do so, however. Agents can also read your codebase and observe existing usage patterns, even if the library is entirely private and not part of their training data.

"What should I consider when structuring this large and complicated project? What are the trade-offs of this niche technical decision?" -- LLMs can run these analyses. Large and complicated project questions are usually a poor fit for Q&A as overly broad. I'd prefer to see debugging questions that LLMs weren't able to answer (there are many) or are in new technologies.

"Simple questions looking for help debugging code" could be useful for training future models on the latest gotchas and patterns in a new library, if that's a Q&A goal.