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This question featured a quite heated discussion in the comments which led to some of them being removed. This action was discussed here and I have realized that our community lacks a guide about posting comments.

I would like for us to build together a list of topics we can include and avoid respectively, in the comments. These lists should stem from our Code of Conduct.

Can include

  • requesting clarifications for the author. Examples: "what was the output of line X?", "can you include the stack trace?", "can you provide a reference for the second paragraph?"
  • constructive criticism. Example: "why is foo() called twice?"
  • +1 or thank you notes, if they also provide a little bit of information. Example: +1. This also worked with version X of the framework Y.

Should be avoided

  • +1 or -1 with no explanation
  • snarky comments. Example: "Codidact is not your personal assistant"
  • references to overall author activity in the community. If you feel a user's activity is an issue, please use flagging instead of comments.
  • providing full answers in the comments (they should be added as answers)
  • secondary discussions or debates on controversial points (please ask a question on meta).

SO loosely used as a reference

Please provide your suggestions about what is OK and not OK to include in the comments.

Once we have reached a fairly stable answer for this, I will include it in the help topics and use it as a reference for moderation.

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Proposal:

Can Include

  • A link to a chat room related to the question or answer. Even if tangentially.

I've always found SO to be too dry. Sure, pleasantries are as helpful in a question or answer as finding them in each page of an encyclopedia.

But some times you find someone with a common interest. Maybe they have an e-mail in their profile, maybe you can meet them in chat. Maybe not and you have no way of indicating such mutual interest.

Would allowing a single link in a comment to a discord chat room indicating the wish for further exchanges be too disruptive? Meaning that if someone has posted a link then nobody can post any further link, a meeting place already exists. If this is allowed and actually used it might become later a feature integrated in the site, with a button for auto-creation of chat rooms by normal users. They'd be an opportunity to help building community rather than the purgatory that is formed with "comments are not for lengthly discussions, moved to (soon to be frozen) chat room".

I am not very proficient with Discord, so I don't know if the chat room creator becomes the moderator and that might cause "first dibs" issues. This might need to be further fleshed out.

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Monica Cellio‭ wrote over 3 years ago

We have a Discord server for our communities, with channel groups for each community. I don't know very much about Discord admin, but if we could figure out a way for people to create new channels under those groups without moderator intervention, then people could take a conversation there if they want. Eventually we hope to have better chat support baked in (it's important for community-building), but what we have today is Discord. Anybody know how to do this?

Lundin‭ wrote over 3 years ago

I don't like Discord specifically simply for the reason that it's spyware. Scanning which programs you have installed on your computer and sending that information over the internet, for unclear and highly questionable purposes. It would good to have a chat room though. Is IRC still a thing? :)

Estela‭ wrote over 3 years ago

@Lundin I do not have a preference for Discord. Y wrote just what is being used right now in Codidact. There are plans for integrated chat but not right now (https://meta.codidact.com/posts/278018#answer-278018) . And yes, after searching for it, I agree about Discord being spyware (https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/discord.html) but that is a discussion for another place.

Monica Cellio‭ wrote over 3 years ago

An alternative approach that avoids Discord would be possible when threaded comments are finished. (I've just been testing the current branch; stuff is happening.) Once comments don't all overwhelm the page but instead are off in collapsable (and collapsed, by default) threads, it doesn't matter as much if a couple people have an extended tangential conversation in one of them. Threaded comments will enable some new behaviors; let's see how people use them and maybe that's good enough? TBD.