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Q&A Why does `let map f = id >=> switch f` work in F#?

Asked How to implement map using the fish (>=>, Kleisli composition) operator in F#? a couple of hours ago, and r~~'s answer blew my mind: let map f = id >=> switch f It is perfect ...

1 answer  ·  posted 1mo ago by toraritte‭  ·  edited 1mo ago by Alexei‭

#4: Post edited by user avatar Alexei‭ · 2024-04-10T15:22:44Z (about 1 month ago)
added relevant tag
#3: Post edited by user avatar toraritte‭ · 2024-04-03T18:02:31Z (about 1 month ago)
  • Asked [How to implement `map` using the fish (>=>, Kleisli composition) operator in F#?](https://software.codidact.com/posts/291227) a couple of hours ago, and [r~~'s answer blew my mind](https://software.codidact.com/posts/291227/291228#answer-291228):
  • ```
  • let map f = id >=> switch f
  • ```
  • It is perfect in its simplicity, but when I look at the type signatures, it is not supposed to work. I've been at it for almost an hour now, so I'm probably missing something fundamental how F# evaluates expressions...
  • For the record, these are the implementations of `bind`,`switch`, and `>=>`:
  • ```
  • let bind
  • ( f : 'a -> Result<'b,'c>)
  • (result : Result<'a,'c>)
  • =
  • match result with
  • | Ok o -> f o
  • | Error e -> Error e
  • let switch
  • (f : 'a -> 'b)
  • (x : 'a )
  • =
  • f x |> Ok
  • let (>=>)
  • (f : 'a -> Result<'b,'error>)
  • (g : 'b -> Result<'c,'error>)
  • =
  • f >> (bind g)
  • ```
  • My next attempt was using an alternative implementation for `>=>`:
  • ```
  • let (>=>>)
  • (f : 'a -> Result<'b,'error>)
  • (g : 'b -> Result<'c,'error>)
  • x
  • =
  • match (f x) with
  • | Ok o -> g o
  • | Error e -> Error e
  • ```
  • Here's the test invocation on `dotnet fsi`:
  • ```
  • (id >=>> (switch ((+) 2) : int -> Result<int,string>))
  • ((Ok 27) : Result<int,string>)
  • //=> Ok 29
  • ```
  • I'm already stuck at why `>=>>` does not blow up on `id` as its first argument?
  • This is how I would think evaluation goes, but apparently this is not it:
  • ```
  • id >=>> switch ((+) 2)
  • |
  • V
  • (>=>>) id (switch ((+) 2))
  • |
  • V
  • match (id x) with
  • | Ok o -> (switch ((+) 2)) o
  • | Error e -> Error e
  • ```
  • ---
  • Note to future self:...
  • ```
  • (>=>>) (>=>>)
  • (f : 'a -> Result<'b,'error>) id
  • (g : 'b -> Result<'c,'error>) (Ok << ((+) 2) : int -> Result<int,string>))
  • x ((Ok 27) : Result<int,string>)
  • ```
  • Asked [How to implement `map` using the fish (>=>, Kleisli composition) operator in F#?](https://software.codidact.com/posts/291227) a couple of hours ago, and [r~~'s answer blew my mind](https://software.codidact.com/posts/291227/291228#answer-291228):
  • ```
  • let map f = id >=> switch f
  • ```
  • It is perfect in its simplicity, but when I look at the type signatures, it is not supposed to work. I've been at it for almost an hour now, so I'm probably missing something fundamental how F# evaluates expressions...
  • For the record, these are the implementations of `bind`,`switch`, and `>=>`:
  • ```
  • let bind
  • ( f : 'a -> Result<'b,'c>)
  • (result : Result<'a,'c>)
  • =
  • match result with
  • | Ok o -> f o
  • | Error e -> Error e
  • let switch
  • (f : 'a -> 'b)
  • (x : 'a )
  • =
  • f x |> Ok
  • let (>=>)
  • (f : 'a -> Result<'b,'error>)
  • (g : 'b -> Result<'c,'error>)
  • =
  • f >> (bind g)
  • ```
  • My next attempt was using an alternative implementation for `>=>`:
  • ```
  • let (>=>>)
  • (f : 'a -> Result<'b,'error>)
  • (g : 'b -> Result<'c,'error>)
  • x
  • =
  • match (f x) with
  • | Ok o -> g o
  • | Error e -> Error e
  • ```
  • Here's the test invocation on `dotnet fsi`:
  • ```
  • (id >=>> (switch ((+) 2) : int -> Result<int,string>))
  • ((Ok 27) : Result<int,string>)
  • //=> Ok 29
  • ```
  • I'm already stuck at why `>=>>` does not blow up on `id` as its first argument?
  • This is how I would think evaluation goes, but apparently this is not it:
  • ```
  • id >=>> switch ((+) 2)
  • |
  • V
  • (>=>>) id (switch ((+) 2))
  • |
  • V
  • match (id x) with
  • | Ok o -> (switch ((+) 2)) o
  • | Error e -> Error e
  • ```
  • ---
  • Note to future self:...
  • ```
  • (>=>>) (>=>>)
  • (f : 'a -> Result<'b,'error>) id
  • (g : 'b -> Result<'c,'error>) (Ok << ((+) 2) : int -> Result<int,string>))
  • x ((Ok 27) : Result<int,string>)
  • ```
  • (... and make sure to convert a point-free function if it does not make sense at first.)
#2: Post edited by user avatar toraritte‭ · 2024-04-03T10:10:43Z (about 1 month ago)
  • Asked [How to implement `map` using the fish (>=>, Kleisli composition) operator in F#?](https://software.codidact.com/posts/291227) a couple of hours ago, and [r~~'s answer blew my mind](https://software.codidact.com/posts/291227/291228#answer-291228):
  • ```
  • let map f = id >=> switch f
  • ```
  • It is perfect in its simplicity, but when I look at the type signatures, it is not supposed to work. I've been at it for almost an hour now, so I'm probably missing something fundamental how F# evaluates expressions...
  • For the record, these are the implementations of `bind`,`switch`, and `>=>`:
  • ```
  • let bind
  • ( f : 'a -> Result<'b,'c>)
  • (result : Result<'a,'c>)
  • =
  • match result with
  • | Ok o -> f o
  • | Error e -> Error e
  • let switch
  • (f : 'a -> 'b)
  • (x : 'a )
  • =
  • f x |> Ok
  • let (>=>)
  • (f : 'a -> Result<'b,'error>)
  • (g : 'b -> Result<'c,'error>)
  • =
  • f >> (bind g)
  • ```
  • My next attempt was using an alternative implementation for `>=>`:
  • ```
  • let (>=>>)
  • (f : 'a -> Result<'b,'error>)
  • (g : 'b -> Result<'c,'error>)
  • x
  • =
  • match (f x) with
  • | Ok o -> g o
  • | Error e -> Error e
  • ```
  • Here's the test invocation on `dotnet fsi`:
  • ```
  • (id >=>> (switch ((+) 2) : int -> Result<int,string>))
  • ((Ok 27) : Result<int,string>)
  • //=> Ok 29
  • ```
  • I'm already stuck at why `>=>>` does not blow up on `id` as its first argument?
  • This is how I would think evaluation goes, but apparently this is not it:
  • ```
  • id >=>> switch ((+) 2)
  • |
  • V
  • (>=>>) id (switch ((+) 2))
  • |
  • V
  • match (id x) with
  • | Ok o -> (switch ((+) 2)) o
  • | Error e -> Error e
  • ```
  • Asked [How to implement `map` using the fish (>=>, Kleisli composition) operator in F#?](https://software.codidact.com/posts/291227) a couple of hours ago, and [r~~'s answer blew my mind](https://software.codidact.com/posts/291227/291228#answer-291228):
  • ```
  • let map f = id >=> switch f
  • ```
  • It is perfect in its simplicity, but when I look at the type signatures, it is not supposed to work. I've been at it for almost an hour now, so I'm probably missing something fundamental how F# evaluates expressions...
  • For the record, these are the implementations of `bind`,`switch`, and `>=>`:
  • ```
  • let bind
  • ( f : 'a -> Result<'b,'c>)
  • (result : Result<'a,'c>)
  • =
  • match result with
  • | Ok o -> f o
  • | Error e -> Error e
  • let switch
  • (f : 'a -> 'b)
  • (x : 'a )
  • =
  • f x |> Ok
  • let (>=>)
  • (f : 'a -> Result<'b,'error>)
  • (g : 'b -> Result<'c,'error>)
  • =
  • f >> (bind g)
  • ```
  • My next attempt was using an alternative implementation for `>=>`:
  • ```
  • let (>=>>)
  • (f : 'a -> Result<'b,'error>)
  • (g : 'b -> Result<'c,'error>)
  • x
  • =
  • match (f x) with
  • | Ok o -> g o
  • | Error e -> Error e
  • ```
  • Here's the test invocation on `dotnet fsi`:
  • ```
  • (id >=>> (switch ((+) 2) : int -> Result<int,string>))
  • ((Ok 27) : Result<int,string>)
  • //=> Ok 29
  • ```
  • I'm already stuck at why `>=>>` does not blow up on `id` as its first argument?
  • This is how I would think evaluation goes, but apparently this is not it:
  • ```
  • id >=>> switch ((+) 2)
  • |
  • V
  • (>=>>) id (switch ((+) 2))
  • |
  • V
  • match (id x) with
  • | Ok o -> (switch ((+) 2)) o
  • | Error e -> Error e
  • ```
  • ---
  • Note to future self:...
  • ```
  • (>=>>) (>=>>)
  • (f : 'a -> Result<'b,'error>) id
  • (g : 'b -> Result<'c,'error>) (Ok << ((+) 2) : int -> Result<int,string>))
  • x ((Ok 27) : Result<int,string>)
  • ```
#1: Initial revision by user avatar toraritte‭ · 2024-04-02T22:08:47Z (about 1 month ago)
Why does `let map f = id >=> switch f` work in F#?
Asked [How to implement `map` using the fish (>=>, Kleisli composition) operator in F#?](https://software.codidact.com/posts/291227) a couple of hours ago, and [r~~'s answer blew my mind](https://software.codidact.com/posts/291227/291228#answer-291228):

```
let map f = id >=> switch f
```

It is perfect in its simplicity, but when I look at the type signatures, it is not supposed to work. I've been at it for almost an hour now, so I'm probably missing something fundamental how F# evaluates expressions...

For the record, these are the implementations of `bind`,`switch`, and `>=>`:

```
let bind
    (     f : 'a -> Result<'b,'c>)
    (result :       Result<'a,'c>)
    =
    match result with 
    |    Ok o -> f o
    | Error e -> Error e

let switch
   (f : 'a -> 'b)
   (x : 'a      )
   =
   f x |> Ok

let (>=>)
    (f : 'a -> Result<'b,'error>)
    (g : 'b -> Result<'c,'error>)
    =
    f >> (bind g)
```

My next attempt was using an alternative implementation for `>=>`:

```
let (>=>>)
    (f : 'a -> Result<'b,'error>)
    (g : 'b -> Result<'c,'error>)
    x
    =
    match (f x) with
    |    Ok o -> g o
    | Error e -> Error e
```

Here's the test invocation on `dotnet fsi`:

```
(id >=>> (switch ((+) 2) : int -> Result<int,string>))
((Ok 27) : Result<int,string>)
//=> Ok 29
```

I'm already stuck at why `>=>>` does not blow up on `id` as its first argument?

This is how I would think evaluation goes, but apparently this is not it: 

```
id >=>> switch ((+) 2)
          |
          V
(>=>>) id (switch ((+) 2))
          |
          V
    match (id x) with
    |    Ok o -> (switch ((+) 2)) o
    | Error e -> Error e
```