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Q&A Why can't we mix increment operators like i++ with other operators?

I'm experimenting with different operators and have a hard time understanding the outcome of certain expressions. I try to combine the ++ operators with other operators such as assignment in the sa...

1 answer  ·  posted 4y ago by Lundin‭  ·  last activity 4y ago by Lundin‭

#3: Post edited by user avatar Lundin‭ · 2020-10-06T11:24:40Z (about 4 years ago)
  • Why can't we mix increment operators with other operators?
  • Why can't we mix increment operators like i++ with other operators?
#2: Post edited by user avatar Lundin‭ · 2020-10-06T11:19:31Z (about 4 years ago)
  • I'm experimenting with different operators and have a hard time understanding the outcome of certain expressions. I try to combine the `++` operators with other operators such as assignment in the same expression. But I get mighty strange results when I use the same variable more than once. One example:
  • int i=0;
  • i=i++;
  • printf("%d\n",i);
  • This prints `0` on gcc and clang compilers, but `1` when I use icc, and so on.
  • clang tells me:
  • > warning: multiple unsequenced modifications to 'i' [-Wunsequenced]
  • `gcc -Wall` tells me:
  • > warning: operation on 'i' may be undefined [-Wsequence-point]
  • I don't understand these warnings, what's the meaning of "unsequenced" and "sequence points"?
  • ---
  • Various other attempts give similar strange and unpredicted results, with the behavior changing when I switch compiler. Some other examples that fail to behave deterministically:
  • - `i = i++ + ++i;`
  • - `i = array[i++];`
  • - `func(i, i++);`
  • - `*ptr++ = *ptr++;`
  • What is the reason behind all my problems with expressions like the ones above? I thought that operator precedence guaranteed a certain order of execution?
  • I'm experimenting with different operators and have a hard time understanding the outcome of certain expressions. I try to combine the `++` operators with other operators such as assignment in the same expression. But I get mighty strange results when I use the same variable more than once. One example:
  • int i=0;
  • i=i++;
  • printf("%d\n",i);
  • This prints `0` on gcc and clang compilers, but `1` when I use icc. And so on, different behavior with different compilers.
  • clang tells me:
  • > warning: multiple unsequenced modifications to 'i' [-Wunsequenced]
  • `gcc -Wall` tells me:
  • > warning: operation on 'i' may be undefined [-Wsequence-point]
  • I don't understand these warnings, what's the meaning of "unsequenced" and "sequence points"?
  • ---
  • Various other attempts give similar strange and unpredicted results, with the behavior changing when I switch compiler. Some other examples that fail to behave deterministically:
  • - `i = i++ + ++i;`
  • - `i = array[i++];`
  • - `func(i, i++);`
  • - `*ptr++ = *ptr++;`
  • What is the reason behind all my problems with expressions like the ones above? I thought that operator precedence guaranteed a certain order of execution?
#1: Initial revision by user avatar Lundin‭ · 2020-10-06T10:47:00Z (about 4 years ago)
Why can't we mix increment operators with other operators?
I'm experimenting with different operators and have a hard time understanding the outcome of certain expressions. I try to combine the `++` operators with other operators such as assignment in the same expression. But I get mighty strange results when I use the same variable more than once. One example:


    int i=0;
    i=i++;
    printf("%d\n",i);

This prints `0` on gcc and clang compilers, but `1` when I use icc, and so on. 

clang tells me:

> warning: multiple unsequenced modifications to 'i' [-Wunsequenced]

`gcc -Wall` tells me:

> warning: operation on 'i' may be undefined [-Wsequence-point]

I don't understand these warnings, what's the meaning of "unsequenced" and "sequence points"?

---

Various other attempts give similar strange and unpredicted results, with the behavior changing when I switch compiler. Some other examples that fail to behave deterministically:

- `i = i++ + ++i;` 
- `i = array[i++];`
- `func(i, i++);`
- `*ptr++ = *ptr++;`

What is the reason behind all my problems with expressions like the ones above? I thought that operator precedence guaranteed a certain order of execution?